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i need advice.

vans decided, based on the trade show sales of my first sneaker, that they want me to do a second. but, because it's a last minute decision they are giving me zero time to decide what to do and zero time to make new art. they suggested i tweak some floral art from an old image because it's a spring shoe. so i did.

janky quick mock up of the first round they nixed:

but then they said they actually wanted a landscape, and since i'd have no time to do a new one, could i just give them some old art? but, the work they want feels so dated. or else i've already used it on blood is the new black shirts that were sold at urban outfitters.

what they want:

it was drawn in 2003 and produced in silkscreen form in 2004. by the time it comes out in 2009 it will be SO OLD. and do i really want an image of a deer and an owl gracing 50,000 sneakers? no no no.

so this is what i drew last night:

i stayed up till three rushing to do a new graphic that hopefully they'll pick instead of something old. but it really isn't something that feels that i'm particularly proud of. is it better to give them something new and janky than old and "better"?

should i
1. just give them the deer graphic
2. give them the deer graphic and tweak it (take out the owl and deers, add some more current iconography. but really then, it's not even the image they want)
3. force them to use the beehive image
4. force them to use the archery image
5. not care anymore

i am stressed out.
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On February 19th, 2008 07:45 pm (UTC), burgertime replied:
the new one is the one with the archery, yep. oh, and they're women's vans. i would think no to a size 12. sorry!
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On February 19th, 2008 07:23 pm (UTC), yhancik commented:
If I understand well

was a new design that they don't want because it's not a landscape ?
(i assume it's not the old design since it has no deer :p)

i'd try to update the old one... since it sounds like its major drawback is to have deers and owl, not that it wasn't really good
On February 19th, 2008 07:47 pm (UTC), burgertime replied:
i rewrote my entry and included the "old" image so it's more clear.

the one with the bees is the first image i gave them. they came back asking for the image with the deer. but instead, i've since given them the image with the bow and arrow. if they don't like it, maybe i'll cave in and give em the deer one.
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On February 19th, 2008 07:32 pm (UTC), ilovebritt commented:
I vote use the old one, switch out the icons for new ones if you have time....but your stuff can stand the test of time... !! <3
On February 19th, 2008 07:40 pm (UTC), inertiastar replied:
I dig the bow and arrow graphic.. guessing thats the new one.. and from my design perspective, not sure if they picked colors or what, but I totally think it'd rock in a more fresh way if you changed that purple barney color to a reddish orange.. just my two cents.. At any other rate, I agree with what's said above... just because it may be old to you, I think it still stands pretty timeless.. your landscapes are really fun no matter what.
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On February 19th, 2008 07:38 pm (UTC), point5 commented:
whatever you do, that interior pattern on the newest one looks totally awesome.
On February 19th, 2008 07:47 pm (UTC), burgertime replied:
thanks! i wanted it to look like a combination between stained glass and the typical islamic patterns i've been doing. i'm into these colors too
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On February 19th, 2008 07:55 pm (UTC), jellied commented:
I'd go with the old one. Especially since you lose my favorite detail on the new ones (the girl with her palms over her eyes).
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On February 19th, 2008 07:57 pm (UTC), teststrip commented:
I really like the archery one, especially the lining.
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On February 19th, 2008 08:02 pm (UTC), catbot commented:
archery all the way
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On February 19th, 2008 08:05 pm (UTC), geenes commented:
I would say use the newest graphic. I think it looks cool on the shoe, and the inside pattern is awesome. I think you're right, the old graphic is just too old (6 years old by the time it comes out!). I think the idea of switching out and updating the icons from the old piece sounds kind of odd.
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On February 19th, 2008 08:28 pm (UTC), lipsandhips commented:
i like the ostrich/bow/arrow one best, but i would say maybe think about all that negative space. it maybe doesnt read well on the shoe.

but its cool, i like it a lot, and also, awesome that you get to be a shoe! hoorayyy!!
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On February 19th, 2008 08:43 pm (UTC), plasticsarah commented:
yeah archery for sure...
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On February 19th, 2008 10:34 pm (UTC), smitten4skadden commented:
not care and hope they take the archer one. it is the best!
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On February 20th, 2008 06:55 am (UTC), roman_holiday commented:
i love them all! be sure to post when they become available.
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On February 20th, 2008 01:26 pm (UTC), aeropause commented:
deer FTW!!!!
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